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Topic: «Directory Opus and AWM » on forum: General   Views: 2308
 
Greg Webb
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Posted: 02/28/2024 06:24:29
 
 
I've just upgraded my Directory Opus (www.gpsoft.com.au) to version 13. It now comes with a warning that it may be incompatible with Actual Window Manager in some circumstances.

Some of the AWM window altering functions may not work. I haven't seen a problem so far.
 
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Jolly Wykoff
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Posted: 06/27/2024 01:52:45
 
 
I see no reply from Actual Tools.  Could you please address this guys?
 
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Alex Fadeyev
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Posted: 06/27/2024 23:35:05
 
 
Jolly,

Do you have any problems with the new version of Directory Opus? It seems that the topic starter hasn't been having anything yet.
 
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Greg Webb
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Posted: 06/28/2024 06:30:12
 
 
Hi Jolly,

I posted that message. I’ve been using DOpus 13 with AWM and experienced no issues in four months. I’ll keep an eye out for any updates from GPSoft and post here if I find anything.

--Greg
 
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Marek Brandstatter
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Posted: 08/02/2024 22:07:59
 
 
Here's the blurb...

https://resource.dopus.com/t/conflicts-with-tools-that-move-on-top-or-modify-other-windows/48661

Conflicts with tools that move, on-top or modify other windows

Directory Opus may appear broken due to issues caused by other software which uses hooks to modify its windows and inject code into its process.

If you experience crashes when opening dialogs or the viewer, or issues like progress dialogs never appearing (when configured to), we recommend uninstalling any such tools to test if they are involved.

Tools which modify other software in this way will inherently have compatibility issues that need ironing out, and that means you should be weary of any which aren't updated regularly.
Exclusions

In some cases, adding an exclusion to the tools is enough to stop them affecting Directory Opus.

However, it's usually the case that their hooks are still installed and active inside our process; they just don't do as much when an exclusion is in place. In some cases, those hooks can still cause problems, and sometimes the only fix is to remove the conflicting tool entirely.

After adding an exclusion (or uninstalling a tool), we recommend rebooting in case the old configuration or DLL remain in memory.
Known conflicts

   Actual File Folders
   Actual Multiple Monitors
   Actual Title Buttons
   Actual Transparent Window
   Actual Virtual Desktops
   Actual Window Manager
   Actual Window Minimizer
   Actual Window Rollup
       Can prevent progress dialogs appearing. See notes below. (Thread 1 10, Thread 2 3, Thread 3 3, Thread 4 3, Thread 5 2.)
       Can cause Opus to steal focus after opening files. (Thread 1.)
       Can cause context menus to move just after appearing. (Thread.)
       Window gadgets they add draw on top of Opus's own UI elements.

Notes on "Can prevent progress dialogs appearing"

   We had occasional reports that some of the tools above prevented progress dialogs appearing in Directory Opus 12.

   Changes in initial versions of Directory Opus 13 meant the problem would always be seen when certain tools were active and not configured to exclude Opus.

   In Directory Opus 13.2.2 and above, we added a workaround which should make things OK again, or at least as good as they were in Opus 12. So you may be OK with those tools again, but please keep them in mind if you see anything unusual, including progress dialogs never appearing.

Notes on "Window gadgets draw on top of Opus's own UI elements"

   This generally affects the Customize and Preferences buttons added to Lister titlebars when those dialogs are open.

   Opus positions those buttons by asking Windows where the standard window buttons (min/max/close) are. Since the tools which add more buttons do not modify the API to reserve space, both things end up on top of each other.

   They'll also put their buttons all over the window title text in a lot of situations (not specific to Opus).

   Most of those tools let you configure them to exclude certain windows or processes. You can use that to make them avoid Opus.
 
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Greg Webb
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Posted: 08/03/2024 05:49:17
 
 
Just for the record, I've been using Directory Opus with Actual Window Manager all year and not seen any issues.

Thanks for posting this information, Marek
 
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Alex Fadeyev
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Posted: 08/06/2024 12:48:17
 
 
Greg, thank you very much for a follow-up. Please inform us if you encounter any issues (probably, those mentioned in Marek's post).
 
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Alex Fadeyev
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Posted: 08/06/2024 12:50:40
 
 
Marek, Jolly, you are welcome too to share any unwanted experience you have with DO and our tools. Many thanks!
 
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iiee ann
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Posted: 10/29/2024 13:31:49
 
 
I have both programs.  AWM does have conflicting issue with DOpus.  One obvious example is the file transfer progress window will disappear when both programs are active.  DOpus has its own file transfer progress window.  Set an exclusion rule solve it, just make them not friend with each other.

This happened almost 1 year ago.  I do not know if recent program updates from both sides have solved this, i simply just exclude DOpus to sweep it under the carpet.

I believed that warning message appears after my post in DOpus forum about this incompatiblity issue last year.
 
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Greg Webb
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Posted: 10/29/2024 14:12:30
 
 
Hi iiee ann,

I've just checked copying in DOpus. Mine worked fine. I'm using Win 10, DOpus 13 and AWM 8.15.1.

I performed my copy with Right Click drag and drop on target folder. Copy Here.

--Greg
 
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